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bullhauler

Posted 6/11/2012 19:11 (#2425301) Subject: JD 737 air drill and 787 cart, tell me the good and bad

Denhoff,ND right in the center of the State

I'm interested in a 36' 737 air drill has 550lb shanks, 3 inch rubber press, 10 inch spacing and set up with Flexicoil, 3 inch paired row with NH3, has tow between 230 bushel 787 tank. Anyone use something like this and how do you like it, I have a 350 hp Ford 9680 that I would use to pull it, was interested in a 5000 Flexicoil, but this seems similar and I like green paint too. Terry 9520Deere

Posted 6/11/2012 19:49 (#2425353 - in reply to #2425301) Subject: Re: JD 737 air drill and 787 cart, tell me the good and bad

Alberta Canada

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The Flexi-coil carts are supposed to be awesome for accuracy and metering. Neighbour has a 2320 same as the 787 and in canola it is bang on 4.8-4.9lbs/acre. CND

Posted 6/11/2012 21:21 (#2425499 - in reply to #2425301) Subject: Re: JD 737 air drill and 787 cart, tell me the good and bad

Anamoose, ND

I think packing would be a issue and depth control. They made that airseeder with either a mounted harrow or mounted packer wheels. The trouble is that the packer gang has just spring pressure for down force where as a Flexicoil 5000 or JD 1820 weight is transfered from the machine directly to the packer gangs (more weight per packer wheel). Depth control might be a issue also since the packer wheels will have little to do with the seeding depth and all your depth control is controlled by phasing cylinders. I would think a FC 5000 would be a much better and more accurate machine. Just my $0.02 worth...... bowal69

Posted 6/11/2012 21:35 (#2425534 - in reply to #2425499) Subject: Re: JD 737 air drill and 787 cart, tell me the good and bad

northeast North Dakota

These were the pigs of Deere lineup 610/787 or 1820/1910 are far better but I woud still go with 5000 Flex-coil Andrew_D

Posted 6/11/2012 22:35 (#2425709 - in reply to #2425301) Subject: Re: JD 737 air drill and 787 cart, tell me the good and bad

Newdale, Manitoba, Canada

Air cart comparison:
JD 787 = FC 2320
JD 777 = FC 1720

Yes, as mentioned, a 737 is not what I would call a true air drill. It's a cultivator/chisel plow with mounted packers. Don't get me wrong, they can still do a good job. Sometimes a very good job in rolling terrain. Having the wheels inside the frame helps it to follow ground contours better. You will get variability in packing pressure though (especially on rolling terrain) because the packers aren't carrying the weight of the frame. As the hitch goes down, the packers go up = less packing!

If there are FC5000 around, I'd seriously look at one. We ran one for 17 years (same drill - 45', 9" space, 5 fold w/ 2320). It was a good drill. Traded up (we thought) to a JD1820/1900. Only kept it 3 years. This year we are running a BG5710/6550 combo. Awesome cart!!! 5810 looks a lot beefier than the 5710, but still a good machine.

Andrew

mennoboy

Posted 6/11/2012 23:13 (#2425820 - in reply to #2425709) Subject: Re: JD 737 air drill and 787 cart, tell me the good and bad

Rivers, MB

I'd agree. The dangley packers dont give as much on-row packing as is needed at times. Cousin of mine has one. In wet years, they work great because you won't overpack quite as easily. however, in drier conditions, emergence is not as nice. Oil seeds can be a bit more difficult to get really good emergence.

If I recall correctly, the 737 had the option of having hydraulic pressure on the packer/harrow sections so you could dial-in the on-row packing a bit. When they replaced the 737 with the 1810, that option was not available.

bullhauler

Posted 6/11/2012 23:33 (#2425882 - in reply to #2425820) Subject: Re: JD 737 air drill and 787 cart, tell me the good and bad

Denhoff,ND right in the center of the State

Yes the 737 has hydralic packers, you can change the amount of packing you want with a dial, and the cultivator part has a floating hitch on it, I would think it would follow the ground contours quite well. I have heard of the nightmares of the the Flexicoil packer and their bearing troubles, and they rust to the shaft and cant get apart is this true? Terry khall_12_34

Posted 6/12/2012 23:14 (#2427447 - in reply to #2425882) Subject: Re: JD 737 air drill and 787 cart, tell me the good and bad

Formerly NE North Dakota, now NW MN

If you have access to a skid steer thats no biggy. I pulled 3 sections apart this spring. Just hook a chain to the square shaft and give her a tug (after removing the nut obviously). Mounting the rubber on the rim is the only struggle. It's slightly harder than mounting a truck tire, so not to bad but not awesome. We like to dunk the rubber pack-tires in 50 gal. of quite hot water for a few minutes before attempting to mount.

I have to disagree with these guys a li'l bit. We had two 737's that were new to us in '97. We traded one for an 1830/1910. We ended up getting rid of the 1830 because it just wasn't right for us. I much prefer pressure adjust on the packers that the 737 provides, and the depth adjust is way simpler on the 737, just turn a crank. Also it seemed like it's a bit more precise. We also prefer the 737 because it's lighter and seems to float over wet conditions much much better than the 1830. We pull a 40' with a 250 hp mfwd.

We switched all of the original Deere openers to an aftermarket one (Gen II or something like that I believe. They look like an eagle beak.) Massive difference in precision and depth control.

The monitoring and control electronics can be very finicky and quite expensive to replace. Blockage modules are like $900 a piece and die more frequently than a person would like.

Don't be fooled by the green paint. This thing is flexi-coil through and through. Deere is even starting to back away from carrying some of the components, so it'd be good to have access to a flexi-coil dealer.

My humble opinions. Should note that I've never really seeded anything but wheat with it, and that our conditions are likely very different than yours. I think you guys are (usually) quite a bit dryer than us. Having enough weight to get the shank in the ground is never an issue for us.